Saturday, 26 April 2008

Avro Lincoln RF511


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Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

This is the lowest recognisable bit of the Avro Lincoln which crashed on the slopes of Llewellyn in Snowdonia on 15th March 1950, There is plenty more as you ascend the bed of Nant Fach, as the photos to follow show. The engines mentioned in this list are however not in evidence.

In the Peak District, a site with this much large wreckage would be quite well known. We can however find no real mention of the wreck anywhere on the 'net. Welsh wreckhunting seems not as popular as elsewhere. The site does however feature in "Hell on High Ground".

Location: SH 67598 63908

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10 comments:

Dwr o Pesda. said...

With referance to Hell on High Ground 2, Thats me in the photo at the crash site of the Lincoln . RF511,Carnedd Llewelyn.

Sean said...

There was a fair bit more of it back in those days...

Dwr o Pesda. said...

You mentioned the engines being missing . My father had the 4 of them. They were lifted over to Llugwy by a wessex . . .

Sean said...

Interesting.Where are they now?

John said...

Sean,

Way back (1968 to be precise), I spent six weeks doing geological mapping over the Carneddau range for my degree. Being an aircraft enthusiast, I also made notes on all the wrecks I found. Unfortunately I don't have my notes anymore, but I do remember finding the Lincoln (at that time, I assumed it was a Lancaster). I had been walking up the Afon Lloer valley, when I noticed small pieces of wreckage in the stream. I followed the trail, up Nant Fach and found the wreck, exactly where the Valley Mountain Rescue log had placed it. It had obviously flown into the ridge at cruising speed. A few hundred feet higher and it would have not crashed.

There was a lot of wreckage including all four Merlins. A large cairn had been built over the area where the cockpit was but seeping out from under it, I could see rivulets of what had been molten aluminium. A very sad sight.

I was hoping I might be able to find the sight on Google Earth, but the imagery is not of high enough resolution. The RAF Valley coordinates convert to 53 09 17.7 N, 03 58 37.2W (WGS 84), using the OS website converter.

If you go there again, just go up Nant Fach towards the ridge line and keep an eye out for the cairn.

Also of interest, on the south slopes of Carnedd Daffyd, eastwards towards Craig Llugwy, I found a piece of corrugated aluminium. Any rumours of Ju 52s crashing in the area? Or were there RAF aircraft that used this material?

Sean said...

Hi John,

thanks for the info. We ended up going down Nant Fach on the day because we went up following the wreckage train from Wellington DV800.

If you look at all of the the blog postings, there are photos all the way up Nant Fach, showing the wreckage trail. This pic. is the lowest one.

As Far as the other side is concerned, I have no record of a crash over there, closest would be the Blenheim L9039, which we are yet to visit.

I have seen corrugated aluminium at C-47 and Defiant crash sites previously. If you search the blog for Defiant wrecks, you will see a nice example or two in Derbyshire. I remember the one on Rowlee Pasture being particuarly clear.

Dwr o Pesda. said...

I think one might be at Caernarfon Airport ,but I dont realy know . . sorry . .

Sean said...

Thanks for the tip, will look into it...

matt zx said...

hi thanks for the pics on this site as been toying with walking this wreck for a while !
the botha and he-111 on llwydmor both seem to have been left alone so worth a visit before they are "cleaned up???"
if you can get it try google earth pro you can see wreckage at quite a few sites including the lincoln so far i have logged about 100 hurts the eyes though!

Sean said...

thanks for the tip, i'd tried with GE standard in Wales previously, but no good...