Showing posts with label botha. Show all posts
Showing posts with label botha. Show all posts

Tuesday, 24 March 2009

Blackburn Botha Mk.I L6202 coded 6-20

engine from Blackburn Botha Mk.I L6202 coded 6-20
Blackburn Botha L6202: Llwytmor
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

The highest, and most commonly found engine from this Botha, which crashed on Llwytmor on the 28th August 1943 while on a training flight from Hooton Park near Ellesmere Port.

There is plenty more wreckage all over the hillside in the vicinity of this engine, which is located very close to the aircraft's impact site.

Location: SH 68378 69129

Blackburn Botha Mk.I L6202 coded 6-20

engine from Blackburn Botha Mk.I L6202 coded 6-20
Blackburn Botha L6202: Llwytmor
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

The elusive second engine from the Botha below the waterfall on Afon Goch.

This is 570m from the other, more commonly photographed one stuck in the crack in the rocks, and is the only picture of this lower engine on the 'net. Others say they have seen it, but as so often the case in the world of "wreckology", they offer no proof.

Location: SH 67810 69131

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Tuesday, 19 August 2008

Blackburn Botha Mk.I L6202 coded 6-20

Blackburn Botha Mk.I L6202 coded 6-20
Botha: Llwytmor
Originally uploaded by wreckhunter

A group of wreckage from the Llwytmor crash site of this Botha.

Location: SH 68135 69279

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Tuesday, 12 August 2008

Bleaklow: Defiant and Botha

Training outing yesterday, twelve and a half miles off-path over Bleaklow's groughs and cloughs took us almost exactly twelve hours. We went to visit a couple of sites more or less on the top of Bleaklow, which we had visited last year.

The sites are those of a Defiant and Botha, two planes united by being frankly a bit rubbish, both models ending up being used as target tugs.

The Defiant was like a Spitfire with a rear firing gun-turret. This tricked a few German pilots at first, but once they knew it had no forward firing guns, it came to seem to the unfortunate aircrew like a much less clever idea.

The Botha was very underpowered and unstable, and consequently crashed a lot. The military therefore withdrew it from active service. They then seemingly thought that these characteristics would make it an ideal training aircraft, which obviously did nothing good for its continuing safety record.

We had resolved previously to revisit the Defiant as High Peak Bob records a further wreckage pile downhill from the commonly visited major one. We actually found quite a number of collections, within a widespread scatter of small bits.

We saw nothing to prove or disprove the sometimes advanced theory that this 'plane was subject to "friendly fire": the fabled radiator with 0.303 bullet holes was not in evidence. There are in any case many things on these moors with such bullet holes in, as they were used for military training for many years. We'd have been none the wiser if we had seen it.

We revisited the Botha because it was close by, and also because visiting both sites allowed us to better investigate the hypothesis frequently put to us that publishing wreck coordinates encourages looting.

We are pleased to say that both sites seem untouched since our last visit. Whilst far from conclusive, this supports our view that publishing coordinates facilitates a harmless navigation exercise for walkers.

Blackburn Botha W5103

Blackburn Botha W5103
Botha
Originally uploaded by wreckhunter

The Botha wreckage was just where we left it in May last year, and looked just the same too. Our co-ords are also good.

Location:SK 11077 97532

Saturday, 26 May 2007

Blackburn Botha W5103; Avro Lancaster PA474

Had an interesting trip yesterday. Found the remains of a RAF Botha at:
Blackburn Botha W5103; Avro Lancaster PA474
SK 11077 97532.












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Whilst searching for a Wellington a little way away, we had several flybys by a Lancaster, got a few pics:












Also a video. As we understand there are only two left airworthy, this isn't something that happens every day! PA474, the Battle of Britain Flight flying Lanc was supposed to be at Headingley on the 25th, but the other one (FM213 )is owned by the Canadian Air Force.
Maybe it was something to do with this years' remake of "The Dambusters".