This is what others have shown as the state of the site, a scar with a few scraps. The nearby burial pit has far more stuff, though.
Location: SJ 23924 48274
Monday, 12 October 2009
Bristol Beaufighter Mk. X NE203
Bristol Beaufighter Mk. X NE203
This looks to be a burial pit with signs of recent digging and fresh-looking bits of aluminium. This is where most of the wreckage we saw was located.
Location:SJ 23933 48268
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There are serial numbers on the wreckage as pictured below
also an inspector's stamp
Tuesday, 17 March 2009
Bristol Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Beaufighter TF.X RD210
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Highest "oleo strut" undercarriage component found within the gully above the buttress
Bristol Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2
Some of the extensive wreckage around the impact site.
Location SH 86409 22595
Bristol Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Beaufighter TF.X RD210
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Lowest oleo strut just below the buttress
Location: SH 86454 22590
Bristol Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Beaufighter TF.X RD210
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Serial numbers for those who like 'em: "91014-B"
Bristol Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2
The lowest undercarriage component we found. A little reminiscent of the Blenheim bits on Electric Mountain.
Location: SH 86537 22642
Bristol Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2
Armour plate and skinning towards the bottom of the wreckage trail
Location: SH 86686 22763
Bristol Beaufighter TF.X RD210
Beaufighter TF.X RD210
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The lowest bit of Beaufighter wreckage we found
Location: SH 86686 22763
Wednesday, 7 January 2009
World's End
World's End
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig
Went up to a place called World's End above Minera (near Wrexham)on Monday in a fair bit of snow looking for some of the wrecks up there. Four are given in High Ground Wrecks: Beaufighter NE203, Spitfire TE210, Fulmar N4074, and Master N7442.
As with last week in Yorkshire, we found nothing anywhere near the HGW coordinates for the ones we got to.
A great day out though, and we had the added excitement of very nearly losing the Landy over a steep bank. Excitement is not quite the right word though, we were a few inches from a 30m drop sideways.
The road is basically impassable in any amount of snow, as even locals were finding out the hard way. Quite a few people went past points of no return, and we had to take a couple of carfuls back down to safety as dark closed in. I should imagine this has been world's end for a few drivers over the years, as well as all those pilots.
Tuesday, 28 October 2008
Elidir Fawr and Elidir Fach
Elidir Fawr
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2
A Wales trip yesterday, we set out with no great hopes of finding any of the three known, and one disputed wreck sites on Elidir Fawr and Elidir Fach. Elidir Fawr has a power station hidden inside it, and is therefore also known as Electric Mountain.
On top of "Electric Mountain", in that cloud somewhere, might well be some remains from the crash of Piper Tomahawk G-BOCC, but we weren't up for the final ascent on the day. The Tomahawk's pilot spent several hours conscious and badly injured hanging over a long, steep drop before he was rescued. Not his best day ever, I shouldn't imagine.
The crash site is allegedly very close to the remains of a Beaufighter according to the Snowdonia scrap dealer's list. They don't call themselves scrap dealers, they think they are aviation archaeologists. However, since most of the stuff they "recovered" quasi-legally from the mountains of Wales ended up weighed in for scrap, it seems the fairest description. Archaeologists do not deal in scrap metal.
We did find wreckage where these Diddycoys said they found Hercules engines from a Beaufighter. We understand however that majority opinion would be that this wreckage is from a Skua which crashed there, or even from the Blenheim crash site (600m away, according to "High Ground Wrecks"). Skuas did not have Bristol Hercules engines. They did however have Bristol Perseus engines. These have 9 cylinders, vs 14 for the Hercules. Could it be that they just couldn't count that high? Of course, if the grave-robbers hadn't weighed the identifiable bits of the the 'plane in, we'd be in a better position to comment on what they saw!
We also found some bits on the slopes of Elidir Fach which were unarguably from Blenheim V6099. It doesn't appear on the previously mentioned list, but it's definitely on the hill.
So we found a fair bit more than expected, and were back down in time for a spot of fish and chips. All good.
Since we posted this we have had some correspondence which suggests that we should not criticise people we have not met.
OK, we take it all back. That guy Hitler was probably just misunderstood too. What do we know, we never met him.
Blackburn B-24 Skua Mk.II L3054 or Bristol Blenheim Mk.IV V6099?
Skua/Beaufighter: Elidir Fawr
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We think the molten aluminium mixed in with these more recognisable components show this to be the burn-out site of this disputed wreck site on Elidir Fawr.
There is a cairn immediately adjacent to this scatter of bits, perhaps indicating that someone else thought the same.
We are calling it as the Skua rather than a Beaufighter, based on what is there to be seen now. It might even be more of the Blenheim. That would be a long wreckage trail, mind.
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