Showing posts with label Yorkshire Moors. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Yorkshire Moors. Show all posts

Friday, 10 January 2025

Peak District Crash Site Locations

This is still the only site with GPS verified, precise and accurate grid references for all of the peak district crash sites where any wreckage remains. We also have many in Wales, Yorkshire, and Bowland.

We are still active, and are in the process of updating the site, which has been rather inactive for a few years due to work commitments.

Friday, 26 June 2020

Short Stirling Mk.III EE975


Air Crash Site Old Cote Moor Yorkshire Dales
























Last one of the day, the 15th August 1944 crash site of Stirling EE975 on Old Cote Moor. There's scraps in the scree at the foot of the cliff that this site is on top of as well.

Location: SD 92766 72654

Saturday, 24 July 2010

De Havilland Mosquito NF.Mk.30 NT266

De Havilland Mosquito NF.Mk.30 NT266

The much looted crash site of NT266 on Pockley Moor, Yorkshire still had these undercarriage parts as of last week. Look on ebay for the rest.

Location: SE 62039 92492

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Avro Lancaster Mk X KB701

Avro Lancaster Mk X KB701

I was lucky to find even this one of the few remaining scattered bits of wreckage at the Helmsley Moor crash site of this Lancaster Bomber.

Location: SE 58808 92116

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Sunday, 8 November 2009

Vickers Armstrong Wellington Mk.IC DV718

Vickers Armstrong Wellington Mk.IC DV718

A tough 19k in fog and rain brought us precious little of this aircraft which crashed at night in low cloud and rain on Riggs Moor.

The poor visibility around here which did for all but one of the crew of the Wellington has caused us a few problems too. The weather was relatively fine until we came to the search area, and visibility then dropped dramatically, just as it did last time we were here.

We were out of light before we had a chance to complete our search, and had to do a couple of K over cloughs and groughs in the dark, which was a good navigation exercise. We found this lightweight bit, around 400mm square, but I'm pretty sure we were almost 100m from the main site.

The crash site is big, and having been assured it could be seen from 100m (if only you could see that far), we are certain we will get the main site at our next attempt, (especially as I spotted it on Google Earth this morning!)

Location: SE 02205 73365

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Wednesday, 19 August 2009

Armstrong Whitworth Whitley Mk. V T4136

Some "Aviation Enthusiasts" nearly came a cropper here.

The bomb was found in the bucket of their JCB, according to The Independent, so obviously good archaeological practice was (as ever for wreckologists) not the No. 1 priority!

I am led to believe Eliott Smock of "The Whitley Project" was the digger in question. Perhaps he would have been better to leave well alone.

He has said since the original date of the posting that he makes no claim to be an archaeologist, and is just digging to get parts to attempt to make a museum piece.

It's nice that he does not have the common delusions of grandeur, but even if you are a house-builder, wouldn't it be better to allow professional archaeologists to make the maximum possible use of your dig site?

If you are going to drive a digger through a crash site, you will irreversibly destroy the archaeological evidence.

Why not follow the new CADW guidelines, even if you are not required to do so by law?

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Location SE 889 818

Monday, 13 April 2009

Fi-103 (V-1) Cruise Missile: Langsett

On Featherbed Top on Howden Moor, there is a bare patch which many including Alan Clark and Pat Cunningham have claimed is the site of a V1 crash. We have visited the site a couple of times previously, and gone with the consensus identification up to now, but we no longer think that the consensus is correct.

Following information received, we have looked into claims from "Tomsk" that this site is not in fact a V1 crater, but that the true crater lies 3/4 km away. After visiting the alternative location today, we are happy that this is the case, for the following reasons:

Fi-103 (V-1) Cruise Missile: Langsett

1. The new crater (illustrated) is very similar in appearance to the one on Black Edge, known to be a V1 site.

Howden Moor Fi-103 (V-1) Cruise Missile: Langsett

2. We found twisted, rusty heavy gauge steel components (illustrated) around the crater identical in appearance to those we found at the Black Edge site. Mick's doing his Big Vern face in this shot.

3. The aluminium parts we found previously (now removed by persons unknown) at the supposed V1 crater correspond to nothing we have seen at V1 sites elsewhere.

4. We have seen no other V1 sites which are a flat black scar on the peat like the supposed V1 site on Howden Moor. All other sites are sharp-sided craters like the new candidate.

5. We have evidence from Tomsk that scraps found at the supposed V1 crater come instead from a Luftmine B parachute mine. Here's a Luftmine B:

Luftmine B

Note the distinctive cross section of the fins, and their five rivets. Here's a bit recovered from the old site with that cross section and five rivets:

Luftmine B

Luftmine B

6. Tomsk also identifies parts found at the new site as belonging to a V1. Here's the bolt which holds the warhead on on a museum piece:

V1: bolt which holds the warhead on

Here's something which looks very similar recovered from the site:

V1: bolt which holds the warhead on

Here's the guillotine mechanism which cuts the cables to send the V1 into a dive:

guillotine mechanism which cuts the cables to send the V1 into a dive

So our initial scepticism has been greatly tempered. The new location seems far more likely to be correct than the commonly held one. The sixth comment on this post also contains seemingly confirmatory information from the Imperial War Museum including these pics. Thanks Dave.

It'll be interesting if others modify their opinions and websites to suit. More interesting still will be who they credit-Mick tells me that Alan Clark for one is simply following us around the sites we have visited in Wales nowadays without crediting us, judging by the updates to his site.

New Location: SK 18224 97083

Tuesday, 14 October 2008

Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A or Armstrong Vickers Wellington Mk.IC Z8808?

Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A or Armstrong Vickers Wellington Mk.IC Z8808?
Halifax or Wellington?
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

We found this bit of aircraft aluminium on our walk to the Halifax, more or less halfway between the reported crash sites of the Halifax and a Wellington.

Location: SE 10236 67759

Piper Cherokee PA 28-180, G-AVYN

Piper Cherokee PA 28-180, G-AVYN
Piper Cherokee
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

Pretty much the whole of this Piper Cherokee remains at Ashfold Gill Head on the moors above Pateley Bridge

Location: SE 07420 68358

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Piper Cherokee PA 28-180, G-AVYN

Piper Cherokee PA 28-180, G-AVYN Memorial
Piper Cherokee
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

A poignant message seemingly left recently by the 22-year old pilot's son on the wing of the aircraft.

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Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A

Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A
Halifax
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

A pit containing large pieces of aluminium skinning from Halifax DG404 on Brown Hill Plain (some give it as Heathfield Moor or even Ashfold Side Beck) on the moors above Pateley Bridge

Location: SE 09570 67520

Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A

Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A
Halifax
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

One of the two groups of good-sized wreckage at this Halifax crash site

Location: SE 09592 67502

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Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A

Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DG404 coded OO-A Serial Number
Halifax
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

And for you serial number fans, here's a detail from a bit of wreckage carrying an embossed serial number with the "57" prefix indicative of a Halifax.

Saturday, 10 May 2008

Halifax and Mosquito: Great Whernside

Halifax and Mosquito: Great Whernside
Awaiting Identification: Great Whernside
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

We went up to Yorkshire yesterday in search of some bigger bits of aircraft wreckage. There are at least seven 'planes downed on Great Whernside, above Kettlewell in the Yorkshire Dales, so we gave that a go. Nice village. Big hill, on such a warm day.

This bit was found on the far side of the Mosquito wreck site from the Halifax crash location. Serial numbers and inspection stamps we found on the part however suggest that it is from the Halifax. The wreckage fields for Mosquito and Halifax are therefore overlapping. They did crash very close to each other. Details of the Halifax and Mosquito in the following posts.

Location:SE 00070 73490

Handley Page Halifax MkII DT578 Coded ZB?

Handley Page Halifax MkII DT578 Coded ZB?
Halifax?:Great Whernside
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

We think these are the remains of Halifax DT578 which crashed in Great Whernside five years before the Mosquito shown in the next entry.

Location:SD 99974 73376

More info:Richard Allenby

De Havilland Mosquito NF36 RL197


Mosquito: Great Whernside
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

A Mosquito undercarriage with various recognisable and and molten bits on Great Whernside on the North Yorkshire Moors.

A chunky home-made cross has been acquired since Richard Allenby's visit, but it seems that its accompanying plaque has been destroyed.

Location:SE 00024 73473

More info:Richard Allenby

Saturday, 15 March 2008

Cowper's Cross:Ilkley Moor


Cowpers Cross:Ilkley Moor
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

We are casting our net a little wider now, as the wreck sites in the Peak are often now just a few scraps of aluminium.

We bought a few more books, and made contact with some people in surrounding areas, like Yorkshire.

We went out this week to try our luck on Ilkley Moor, and found the Halifax up there with accurate coordinates from Richard Allenby. His suggested site for the Whitley near Cowper's Cross was however probably fruitless.

Ilkely Moor was more like a country park than real moorland, but nice enough...You wouldn't believe the trouble we had finding a pie in Ilkley, would have been easier to get guacamole than mushy peas. Eeh, it's posh up North...

Armstrong Whitworth Whitley MkV 9274 MH-U


Whitley: Ilkley Moor
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

Our search of the area around Cowper's Cross yielded this twisted bit of aluminium. It was a long way away from the area we were advised to look in, and it doesn't look anything like the bits of wreckage previous hunters claim to have found. We are not convinced, but just maybe...

We are not sure if there are two Whitleys on the Moor, or one. Richard Allenby told us one, but his website shows two...

Location:SE 103 457

Further info(Richard Allenby)

Handley Page Halifax Mk.V DK185


Halifax:Ilkley Moor
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

This wreckage pile is not featured on other sites. It is quite a way from the memorial and its associated smaller wreckage pool. We'd probably have found those without help, as they are right on the path, and the memorial stands out, but this one is more or less down to Richard Allenby's assistance.

Location:SE 093 467

More info(Alan Clark)
More info(Richard Allenby)