Showing posts with label Derbyshire. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Derbyshire. Show all posts

Wednesday, 28 July 2010

Republic P-47C Thunderbolt 41-6259

Republic P-47C Thunderbolt 41-6259
Since Pat last visited this crash site in Sudbury Coppice (near Ashbourne in Derbyshire) other visitors have apparently piled scraps of aircraft wreckage on the tree stump directly beside the crash crater.

Location:SK 15617 35518

More info: Crash date-19th January 1944-the pilot was ferrying the aircraft from Halesworth in Suffolk to Maghaberry in Northern Ireland, and lost control of the aircraft when attempting to climb through low cloud.

Monday, 29 June 2009

Countryfile

Countryfile's article on the peak plane wreck sites may have been the cause of the massive spike in visitor numbers to the site over the weekend.

At least they sent out a competent presenter guided by a local MRT volunteer to the Shelf Stones Superfortress site, rather than the clueless floppy-haired double act possibility: Ben Fogle and Alan Clark. Imagine that if you will.


Superfortress Gun Turret Recovery Shelf Stones





















Oh dear-here's that Mountain Rescue Team volunteer leading his colleagues in the "recovery" from the site of what is described as a gun turret, previously hidden by kids back in 1948.

I'd be interested to know whether they had a licence from the MOD for the operation. If they have, we could have told them where there was one in much better condition.

Monday, 13 April 2009

Fi-103 (V-1) Cruise Missile: Langsett

On Featherbed Top on Howden Moor, there is a bare patch which many including Alan Clark and Pat Cunningham have claimed is the site of a V1 crash. We have visited the site a couple of times previously, and gone with the consensus identification up to now, but we no longer think that the consensus is correct.

Following information received, we have looked into claims from "Tomsk" that this site is not in fact a V1 crater, but that the true crater lies 3/4 km away. After visiting the alternative location today, we are happy that this is the case, for the following reasons:

Fi-103 (V-1) Cruise Missile: Langsett

1. The new crater (illustrated) is very similar in appearance to the one on Black Edge, known to be a V1 site.

Howden Moor Fi-103 (V-1) Cruise Missile: Langsett

2. We found twisted, rusty heavy gauge steel components (illustrated) around the crater identical in appearance to those we found at the Black Edge site. Mick's doing his Big Vern face in this shot.

3. The aluminium parts we found previously (now removed by persons unknown) at the supposed V1 crater correspond to nothing we have seen at V1 sites elsewhere.

4. We have seen no other V1 sites which are a flat black scar on the peat like the supposed V1 site on Howden Moor. All other sites are sharp-sided craters like the new candidate.

5. We have evidence from Tomsk that scraps found at the supposed V1 crater come instead from a Luftmine B parachute mine. Here's a Luftmine B:

Luftmine B

Note the distinctive cross section of the fins, and their five rivets. Here's a bit recovered from the old site with that cross section and five rivets:

Luftmine B

Luftmine B

6. Tomsk also identifies parts found at the new site as belonging to a V1. Here's the bolt which holds the warhead on on a museum piece:

V1: bolt which holds the warhead on

Here's something which looks very similar recovered from the site:

V1: bolt which holds the warhead on

Here's the guillotine mechanism which cuts the cables to send the V1 into a dive:

guillotine mechanism which cuts the cables to send the V1 into a dive

So our initial scepticism has been greatly tempered. The new location seems far more likely to be correct than the commonly held one. The sixth comment on this post also contains seemingly confirmatory information from the Imperial War Museum including these pics. Thanks Dave.

It'll be interesting if others modify their opinions and websites to suit. More interesting still will be who they credit-Mick tells me that Alan Clark for one is simply following us around the sites we have visited in Wales nowadays without crediting us, judging by the updates to his site.

New Location: SK 18224 97083

Tuesday, 10 March 2009

Kinder Six

Handley Page Heyford Mk.III K6875
Handley Page Heyford Mk.III K6875
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

Out onto Kinder yesterday to look at a few wrecks as a map and compass navex with Moustache Steve.

Over ten muddy miles, we revisited the Halifax and Wellington by Ringing Roger, the Wellington above Grindsbrook Clough, the Anson and Dragon Rapide on Edale Moor, and the Heyford on Broadlee Bank Tor. A little digging was evident at this last site, and the memorial cross had disappeared (illustrated above) .

There was also a bit of of artistic rearrangement at the Dragon Rapide (below).

De Havilland Dragon Rapide G-ALBC
De Havilland Dragon Rapide G-ALBC
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

Other than that, all was well with the sites we visited.

An interesting thing happened out on Edale Moor-both GPS units started reading consistently about 1km out. This was the first time I have been convinced that GPS units were wrong based on my map and compass navigation. Might have been something to do with the thick hail clouds above us.

It's a scary thing being out there in the middle of Kinder if you are not 100% sure where you are!

Tuesday, 17 February 2009

DeHavilland Hornet F. Mk.1 PX244

DeHavilland Hornet F.1 PX244
DeHavilland Hornet F.1 PX244
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

On the B-team outing today with Welsh Barry we found this little bit of aluminium skinning at the site, despite Alan Clark having apparently taken anything sizeable for his private collection (see the two pics right at the bottom of the page here).

If you are reading, Alan, did you make those wonky little felt-tip scale bars? ROFL! That's the best thing we've seen since your mate's home made "Air Crash Investigator" jumpsuit!

Location: SK 27282 36384

Friday, 7 November 2008

Bristol Blenheim Mk.IV Z5870

Bristol Blenheim Mk.IV Z5870
Crowden Brook
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

Further to some recent correspondence, we decided to search up from Crowden Brook towards what is believed by some to be the terminal site of this still unlocated Blenheim Bomber crash.

Like all others we are aware of, we failed to find any trace of the 'plane on the mountain.

On the other hand, we did get to be overtaken by little old ladies (amongst many others) on what seemed to be the most well-trafficked route up Kinder we have yet been on.

Location:TBC

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Tuesday, 23 September 2008

Armstrong Vickers Wellington Mk.III HF613 coded DD-R

Memorial: Vickers Armstrong Wellington Mk.III HF613 coded DD-R
Wellington: Hope
Originally uploaded by wreckhunter

This memorial and the Canadian maple planted in the wooden frame behind it were placed to mark the crash site of this RCAF Wellington in the ford in the river nearby.

The crash site itself threw up a practice bomb a few years back (not a live one as reported elsewhere on the 'net), which was blown up by the army with an unsatisfying explosion, according to witness reports.

Location:SK 16003 83421

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Tuesday, 12 August 2008

Blackburn Botha W5103

Blackburn Botha W5103
Botha
Originally uploaded by wreckhunter

The Botha wreckage was just where we left it in May last year, and looked just the same too. Our co-ords are also good.

Location:SK 11077 97532

Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.I N3378

Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.I N3378
Defiant
Originally uploaded by wreckhunter

The remains of this Defiant on Bleaklow appear all to still be intact, despite our publishing the coordinates of the site almost a year ago on here.

The dire warnings that publishing coordinates will result in sites being looted we have been receiving from wreckologists appear groundless.

But of course we knew that. It is the aircraft nuts who are taking bits, and they know where the sites are. What would walkers want a bit of old scrap metal for?

Friday, 15 February 2008

Airspeed Oxford Mk.I BG197


Oxford: Starkholmes
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

This Oxford crash site above Starkholmes near Matlock yielded these few bits fairly readily. These were surface wreckage, contrary to Pat Cunningham's experience at the site. The circular bit at the back looked like the turntable of an old record player, but the rest is definitely plane wreckage.

Location:SK 30187 58638

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Tuesday, 18 December 2007

Avro Shackleton M.R. Mk.3 (prototype) WR970


Shackleton
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

Site proving wreckage from the Shackleton wreck near Foolow. Left where we found it.

Location:SK 19324 76649

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Sunday, 4 November 2007

Armstrong Vickers Wellington Mk. VI W5795


Wellington Crash Memorial: Stanley, Derby
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig2

This memorial is at SK 41952 40412, in St Andrew's Churchyard, Stanley, near Derby. The debris field was however widespread, and therefore less well defined.

Quarry Farm could be a number of local places..

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Thursday, 4 October 2007

Airspeed Oxford Mk.I NM683


Oxford Wreck: Rushup Edge
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

This Oxford on Rushup edge was the first of today's finds.

Location is SK 10948 83838

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Handley Page Hampden Mk.I X3154 coded ZN-A


Hampden Wreck: Rushup Edge
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

The congealed molten remains of Handley Page Hampden Mk.I X3154 contain a heat-detonated .303 cartridge if you look carefully. The high-res photo on Flickr will show the detail better. Just click on the photo above.

Location:SK 10411 82997

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Handley Page Heyford Mk.III K6875


Heyford Wreck: Broadlee Bank Tor
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

We took a few goes to find this one-last of four today.

Location: SK 11093 86013

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Miles Hawk Trainer Mk.III G-AJSF


Miles Hawk Wreck:Kinder Low End
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

The world's smallest wreckage pile! These scraps of doped canvas are all that is now left of the Miles Hawk Trainer which crashed into Kinder Low End.

Location: SK 07368 86688

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Thursday, 20 September 2007

Boulton Paul Defiant Mk.I N1766


Defiant Wreck Site: Rowlee Pasture
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

Just one wreck site today, this Boulton Paul Defiant on Rowlee pasture. Missed this once before, but with coords from both Bob and Ralph, and the path worn to the site by previous visitors, an easy find today. I make the coordinates as SK 15287 90504.

Went though Alport castles on the way down, quite a scramble in today's wind and weather.

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Friday, 10 August 2007

De Havilland Dragon Rapide G-ALBC


46 Kinder Five 015
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

This wreckage is at SK 10160 88245.

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North American Harvard FT415


Harvard Wreck on Kinder
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

This Harvard wreckage was at SK 08898 86832, very close to the Anson

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Avro Anson Mk.XI NL185


46 Kinder Five 028
Originally uploaded by seansonofbig

A successful outing to Kinder yesterday, this Anson wreckage at SK 08904 86699 was one of four wreck sites located.

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